THE UK ELECTION LEADERSHIP DEBATE ROUND 2 22 APRIL 2010

A record of the second debate between Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democratic party leaders

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THE UK ELECTION LEADERSHIP DEBATE ROUND 2 22 APRIL 2010 by Mind Map: THE UK ELECTION LEADERSHIP DEBATE ROUND 2 22 APRIL 2010

1. Last Weeks Debate

1.1. MindManager Map and Outline

1.2. ITV Player

2. Closing Remarks

2.1. Gordon Brown

2.1.1. The buck stops here

2.1.2. Daily discussions about Afghanistan

2.1.3. Economy - Don't do anything that risks the recovery

2.1.4. Conservatives will risk the recovery

2.1.5. Lib Dems will risk our security

2.2. David Cameron

2.2.1. Fresh new leadership

2.2.2. Note the differences between the parties

2.2.3. Break away from 13 years of failure

2.3. Nick Clegg

2.3.1. We can shape the world around us

2.3.2. The Lib Dems will act differently

2.3.3. People are beginning to believe that a change is possible

2.3.4. You don't need to repeat the mistakes of the past

3. What new measures will you introduce to make immigration fairer

3.1. Nick Clegg

3.1.1. Border police force

3.1.2. Direct them to areas in need

3.1.3. Remove the invisible immigrants from the crime mobs

3.1.4. We created the problem with our chaotic immigration system

3.1.5. We cannot deny the situation the previous governments have created

3.2. Gordon Brown

3.2.1. An amnesty of illegal immigrants will not happen

3.2.2. We have restrictions on Non EU immigration and specific trades

3.2.3. ID cards for those coming in

3.2.4. Count people in and out

3.2.5. Points system

3.2.6. We have reduced net immigration

3.3. David Cameron

3.3.1. We need to be warm to those who are here

3.3.2. We have allowed too many people in

3.3.3. We need to restrict it

3.3.4. Labour have failed to control immigration

3.3.5. Amnesty has be shown to not work in Europe

3.3.6. We will discuss annually with everyone the cap required

4. Will you put aside political differences to deal with the big issues by working in a coalition

4.1. David Cameron

4.1.1. Yes we do cooperate on some issues

4.1.2. But we believe certain things need to happen now

4.1.3. Yes we would work with a coalition if required

4.1.4. But we do disagree on some fundamental issues

4.1.4.1. Job tax

4.1.5. We do need to have a multi party war cabinet

4.1.6. You can see we have our differences

4.2. Nick Clegg

4.2.1. Yes form cooperative groups on finance issues for examples

4.2.2. I don't think it would matter

4.2.3. We will talk if it happens

4.2.4. We will fight for our proposals within a coalition

4.2.5. We need radical steps to reform the banking system

4.2.6. Split the investment banks from the high street ones

4.3. Gordon Brown

4.3.1. We already many cooperative groups with business and financial institutions

4.3.2. Let the public decide

4.3.3. I am always asking people to work with us

4.3.4. Conservatives want to take money out of the economy

5. Is a state pension of £59 a week a just reward?

5.1. Gordon Brown

5.1.1. We will link pensions to earnings

5.1.2. Pension credit

5.1.3. Free TV Licenses

5.1.4. Women will be given similar pensions to me

5.1.5. We will enable to stay longer at home before going to a residential home

5.1.6. We will suspend payments for residential care after two years

5.2. David Cameron

5.2.1. We will deliver pension based on earnings

5.2.2. We will need men to work a year longer to pay for this

5.2.3. Residential care will be dealt with

5.2.4. We will keep

5.2.4.1. Bus passes

5.2.4.2. TV Licenses

5.2.4.3. Winter Heating License

5.2.5. We want to stop people have to use their savings and property to pay for residential care

5.3. Nick Clegg

5.3.1. People are taking extreme actions

5.3.2. We will be dealing with this

5.3.3. 2.5 million pensioners in poverty (Well done Labour)

5.3.4. Extend winter fuel payments to other groups

5.3.4.1. Disabled

5.3.4.2. Terminally Ill

5.3.5. The growing elderly population is a big problem which needs joint long term action

5.3.6. We will give carers a break

6. How do you plan to restore faith in the political system?

6.1. Nick Clegg

6.1.1. Give people the power to sack those who fail

6.1.2. We still have to act on the issues that need resolving

6.1.3. Partial result of this and these debates is young people are going to vote in larger numbers

6.1.4. Jobs for life

6.1.4.1. 20-30% votes in safe seats

6.1.5. There are still people who have not been held to account for their finances

6.2. Gordon Brown

6.2.1. Voting makes a difference

6.2.2. Right of recall

6.2.3. Referendum on House of Lords and Commons

6.2.4. Don't risk the vote on the other parties

6.2.5. We have clear rules now which allow us to kick out those that transgress them

6.2.6. What makes a difference

6.2.6.1. Schools

6.2.6.2. Health

6.2.6.3. Policing

6.2.7. The Conservatives will still be benefitting the richest people in the country

6.2.8. It should be a full time job

6.2.8.1. Local surgeries

6.2.8.2. Attending votes

6.3. David Cameron

6.3.1. People want the certainty and transparency on expense

6.3.2. Cut the cost of politics

6.3.3. Open primaries: involve more people in this

6.3.4. Personal responsibilties

6.3.4.1. Bring up children

6.3.4.2. Cooperate with the police

6.3.5. Don't punish people for doing this

7. Live at Sky News Online

7.1. Preamble

7.2. The Rules

8. Opening Remarks

8.1. Gordon Brown

8.1.1. Its about the UK's future

8.1.2. Economic recovery

8.1.3. Bringing the troops back

8.1.4. Security

8.1.5. I can supply the right conditions

8.2. David Cameron

8.2.1. Help families

8.2.2. Less waste and bureaucracy

8.2.3. Accept personal resonsibility

8.3. Nick Clegg

8.3.1. The UK currently have a poor record

9. What is the advantage of being in Europe?

9.1. David Cameron

9.1.1. We should be in there

9.1.2. We should take some powers back

9.1.3. We should not join the Euro

9.1.4. Remove some of the bureaucracy

9.1.5. Our powers have been given away without consultation

9.1.6. Referendums on future power transfer

9.1.7. It's a con to vote in or out

9.2. Nick Clegg

9.2.1. It's imperfect

9.2.2. We need it

9.2.2.1. International Crime

9.2.2.2. Climate Change

9.2.2.3. Banking systems

9.2.3. Referendum yes

9.2.3.1. But bigger issue

9.2.3.2. In or Out

9.2.4. You need to be in to be represented against other major trading entities

9.2.5. Cameron has aligned himself with some extreme groups in Europe

9.3. Gordon Brown

9.3.1. 3 million jobs depend on it

9.3.2. 750,000 businesses trade with Europe

9.3.3. I have persuade them to deal with the banks

9.3.4. Too much debate not enough action

9.3.5. Trade with Europe is paramount

9.3.6. David is anti Europe

9.3.7. Nick is anti US

10. Pope is visiting and it will cost us millions. Will you distance yourself from Catholic views on homosexuality, contraception and their legacy of ill treatment

10.1. David Cameron

10.1.1. Yes the Pope should come

10.1.2. Faith organisations do remarkable work here

10.1.3. But I don't agree with everything they do

10.1.4. We need to advance in Science and elsewhere

10.1.5. We should be open and discuss with them and others

10.2. Nick Clegg

10.2.1. Many Catholics are disturbed by what has gone on and the current doctrines

10.2.2. But the Pope should visit

10.2.3. I don't agree with everything they stand for

10.3. Gordon Brown

10.3.1. Openess is required

10.3.2. Pope visit yes

10.3.2.1. Catholics are an important part of our society

10.3.3. I do disagree with them

10.3.3.1. Homosexuality

10.3.3.2. Contraception

10.3.3.3. Scientific development

11. Would the UK participate in future multi-national operations against terrorism?

11.1. Gordon Brown

11.1.1. We already are and we will continue to do this

11.1.1.1. Somalia

11.1.2. The mission in Afghanistan will work

11.1.3. Yes there will a review

11.1.4. No will be allowed to create bases to breach our security

11.1.5. Enemy tactics have changed. We have changed. They keep on changing

11.1.6. Iran and North Korea are real threats

11.2. Nick Clegg

11.2.1. Yes if it is like Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan

11.2.2. Let's make sure they are properly equipped with the right strategy

11.2.3. Need a full defence review

11.2.4. Stop

11.2.4.1. Euro Fighter

11.2.4.2. Trident

11.2.4.2.1. The military do not believe we need a replacement now

11.2.5. We have not been supplying our people properly in Afganistan

11.3. David Cameron

11.3.1. We need think carefully and coherently about it

11.3.2. Have we got a political strategy in each case

11.3.3. Big issue making sure all factions are involved in rebuilding countries like Afghanistan

11.3.4. We need Trident and its replacement

11.3.5. We cannot put it off

12. What have you done personally to use sustainable forms of transport

12.1. Gordon Brown

12.1.1. I have been on the beach

12.1.2. Solar panel yes

12.1.3. Wind Turbine no

12.1.4. Stop consuming oil

12.1.5. Nuclear power will balance against the loss of oil

12.1.6. We have a renewables plan

12.1.7. We will continue with our current plans

12.1.8. We have worked with many countries

12.2. Nick Clegg

12.2.1. I don't do enough

12.2.2. Tax on aviation is needs reform

12.2.3. Nuclear Power

12.2.3.1. Very expensive

12.2.3.2. Long Time to build

12.2.4. Much cheaper

12.2.4.1. Mass insulation of private and public property

12.2.5. Act globally

12.2.5.1. Lead in Europe

12.2.6. American relationship should not be a one way street

12.3. David Cameron

12.3.1. Installed proper insulation in my house

12.3.2. Against 3rd run away at Heathrow

12.3.3. High Speed Trains would be better

12.3.4. Green Deal £6,500 to spend on your home

12.3.5. Power cuts predicted in 2017

12.3.5.1. Nuclear power will not be ready

12.3.6. Action is required at the European level