Debate Visual

1. Useful

1.1. Bhuddism and Mahavira

1.1.1. (Mahivira) Jainism

1.1.1.1. do not believe in caste system the lowest castes could achieve ultimate salvation or nirvana

1.1.1.2. Rejected the Vedas Rejected the priests’ power People didn’t need priests

1.1.2. Bhudda

1.1.2.1. fought corruption through becoming an ascetic and wielding public opinion as a weapon to tear down the current infrastructure.

1.1.2.1.1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-14552175 Thousands have taken to the streets of India in protest, after one of the country's leading anti-corruption activists was arrested ahead of a planned hunger strike.

1.1.2.2. Brahminism

1.1.2.2.1. Priests were corrupt. They were over dominant They were claiming many priviliges.

1.1.3. Hindu: too many sacrifices, corruption, expensive (helpful)

1.2. Arthashastra

1.2.1. Good king has a lot of detailed qualities

1.2.1.1. King is an example in his attitude

1.2.1.1.1. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/A-new-low-India-sinks-in-global-corruption-ranking/articleshow/10941749.cms A new low: India sinks in global corruption rank

1.2.2. Helping the weak will be helpful: West Tightens Iran Sanctions After Embassy Attack.

1.2.2.1. If people were really protecting the week, we would have a far more peacful world, but in reality the U.S and their allies bully smaller countries in hope of asserting some kind of dominance, which is why they are so hell bent on making sure nobody else gets nuclear weapons, because they see that as a trheat they can hold over others.

1.2.2.2. If the weak were truly helped by us, Iran would be untouched

1.2.3. The king shall provide the orphans, the aged, the infirm, the afflicted, and the helpless with maintenance. He shall also provide subsistence to helpless women when they are carrying and also to the children they give birth to.

1.2.3.1. King should help the weakest people--unwanted children, disabled, elderly

1.2.3.2. Social welfare

1.2.3.3. Government helps/gives money or creates resources for those who need support. the king should give his own resources to help during crisis

1.2.3.4. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-16153880 India court orders shelters for homeless in winter 2008 estimate saying 150,000 sleep rough in the freezing cold in delhi

1.2.4. The sale or mortgage of articles such as timber, iron, brilliant stones, ropes, skins, earthenware, threads, fibrous garments, and woollen clothes as superior though they are really inferior shall be punished with a fine of 8 times the value of the articles thus sold.

1.2.4.1. People/companies selling bad goods when they say they are good should be punished.

1.2.4.2. Current connection piracy laws

1.2.5. During famine, the king shall show favour to his people by providing them with seeds and provision (bíjabhaktopagráham). He may either do such works as are usually resorted to in calamities; he may show favour by distributing either his own collection of provisions or the hoarded income of the rich among the people; or seek for help from his friends among kings. Or the policy of thinning the rich by exacting excessive revenue (karsanam), or causing them to vomit their accumulated wealth (vamanam) may be resorted to.

1.3. Edicts of Ashoka

1.3.1. http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/ashoka.html

1.3.2. Edict 3 ...King Piyadasi, speaks thus:Twelve years after my coronation this has been ordered -- Everywhere in my domain the Yuktas, the Rajjukas and the Pradesikas shall go on inspection tours every five years for the purpose of Dhamma instruction and also to conduct other business.Respect for mother and father is good, generosity to friends, acquaintances, relatives, Brahmans and ascetics is good, not killing living beings is good, moderation in spending and moderation in saving is good. The Council shall notify the Yuktas about the observance of these instructions in these very words.

1.3.2.1. Inspection tours should be done

1.3.2.2. for the purpose of Dhamma instruction and also to conduct other business

1.3.2.3. Respect to parents, gnerosity to friends, acquaintainces,relatives, brahmins and ascetics.

1.3.2.4. Not killing living beings and moderation in spending and saving.

1.3.2.5. Council shall notify Yuktas about the observance of these instructions in these very words.

1.3.3. Edict 2 ...King Piyadasi's domain, and among the people beyond the borders...everywhere has Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, made provision for two types of medical treatment: medical treatment for humans and medical treatment for animals. Wherever medical herbs suitable for humans or animals are not available, I have had them imported and grown. Wherever medical roots or fruits are not available I have had them imported and grown. Along roads I have had wells dug and trees planted for the benefit of humans and animals.

1.3.3.1. having medicine for both humans and animals

1.3.3.1.1. http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/27/world/asia/elephant-thailand-eyeon/index.html?hpt=hp_c3 Jumbo ambulance saves elephants

1.3.3.2. growing and building for the benefit of humans and animals

1.3.4. Edict 7... King Piyadasi, desires that all religions should reside everywhere, for all of them desire self-control and purity of heart. But people have various desires and various passions, and they may practice all of what they should or only a part of it. But one who receives great gifts yet is lacking in self-control, purity of heart, gratitude and firm devotion, such a person is mean.

1.3.4.1. All religions should reside everywhere because they all desire self-control and purity of heart

1.3.4.1.1. Useful for leaders in iraq recently 55 shite pilgrims killed in road bombing http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45987591/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/bomb-kills-least-pilgrims-south-iraq/

1.3.5. Edict 9 is the ceremony of the Dhamma. This involves proper behavior towards servants and employees, respect for teachers, restraint towards living beings, and generosity towards ascetics and Brahmans Useful because advocates state morality

1.3.5.1. Useless ceremonies

1.3.5.2. restraint towards living beings

1.3.5.3. Proper behavior to servants

1.3.5.4. respect for teachers

1.4. Mauryan Leaders

1.4.1. ashoka rule was based on the principle of dharma or conquest not by war but righteousness

1.4.1.1. New node

1.4.2. The Maurya Empire had smooth administration and efficient rulers.

1.4.3. Maurya developed infrastructure such as roads, bridges, and a post office, that would help his empire to flourish for almost 150 years.

1.4.3.1. Bangalore addresses ageing infrastructure for 21st century bangalore's infrastructure havent develped yet under rapid economy growth http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-15819667

1.4.4. Chandragupta

1.4.5. Alliances

1.4.5.1. k

1.4.5.2. signs Iran is supplying Syria with weapons http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/17/strong-signs-iran-is-supplying-syria-with-weapons-us-says/

1.4.5.2.1. Shows that these 2 countries are allies

1.4.5.2.2. Leader in the Mauryan empire most likely had allies also.

1.4.5.3. New node

1.5. Mughul Empire

1.5.1. Under Akbar's rule (1556-1605)

1.5.1.1. strong central administrative and political system fully developed

1.5.1.1.1. Could solve Irans problems

1.5.1.2. the empire expanded north to Kabul and Kashmir, east to Bengal and Orissa, south to Gujarat and southwest to Rajasthan.

1.5.1.3. spiritual as well as military and strategic leader for all relgions

1.5.1.3.1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16442960 Nigeria Christians hit by fresh Islamist attacks

1.5.1.4. Trade with european countries increased

1.5.1.5. Military organized city

1.5.2. Infrastructure

1.5.2.1. Tax for all people was 30% of their proffits

1.5.2.1.1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16361439 Japan delays sales tax increase amid growing opposition

1.5.2.2. fair tax encourage to buy more

1.5.3. Decline

1.5.3.1. Military campaigns wore away at treasury

1.5.3.1.1. US in debt because of wars in middle east

1.5.3.1.2. New node

1.5.3.2. mansabdiri(beuracracy)

1.5.3.2.1. large number of government employees cost lots of money

1.5.3.2.2. Lack of funding during war made it so that not all taxes could be collected

1.5.3.2.3. so much spent on employees other things declined

1.5.3.3. Moral decline

1.5.3.3.1. Army had no central loyalty, mercenary force

1.5.3.3.2. Morale so low no patriosim

1.5.3.4. No clear sucession

1.5.3.4.1. Dynasitic rule but no firm rules for sucession

1.5.3.5. Stagnation

1.5.3.5.1. No new immigration, no fresh talent or supplies

1.5.3.5.2. Politics degenerated into nobility, two clear sides (Turani&Irani vs afghan and hindustani)

1.5.3.6. King Aurangazeb

1.5.3.6.1. Breifly taxed non muslims and destroyed many hindu temples

2. Not useful

2.1. Arthashastra

2.1.1. All undertakigns depend on finance, and the treasure should be watched at all time bad because in modern day india money would be stolen cause of corruption would be a larger drain then boon to have c entral treasurey

2.1.2. ANVIKSHAKI, the triple Védas (Trayi), Várta (agriculture, cattle-breeding and trade), and Danda-Niti (science of government)

2.1.2.1. 4 main sciences in the arthashastra

2.1.2.1.1. not useful, already have them worked out

2.1.3. Sciences shall be studied and their precepts strictly observed under the authority of specialist teachers. science would stagnate| control of freedom of information against many modern laws| with so much elder observance no new science|

2.1.4. RESTRAINT of the organs of sense, on which success in study and discipline depends can be enforced by abandoning lust, anger, greed, vanity (mána), haughtiness (mada), and overjoy (harsha).

2.1.4.1. http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20120117/NEWS02/120117020/Joyce-Bellavance-sentenced-3-5-years-1-6M-embezzlement?odyssey=nav%7Chead

2.1.4.2. Lust too deepset, even in least corrupt country government/ buisness people are corrupt

2.2. Edicts of Ashoka

2.2.1. The sighting of heavenly cars, auspicious elephants, bodies of fire and other divine sightings has not happened for many hundreds of years. But now because Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi promotes restraint in the killing and harming of living beings, proper behavior towards relatives, Brahmans and ascetics, and respect for mother, father and elders, such sightings have increased.[9]

2.2.1.1. says gods favor new king

2.2.1.2. theocratic rule is looked down upon and tends to be oppressive

2.2.1.3. like Iran, oppressive government trade sanctioned

2.2.2. Edict 1 qoute: "Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, has caused this Dhamma edict to be written.[1] Here (in my domain) no living beings are to be slaughtered or offered in sacrifice. Nor should festivals be held, for Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, sees much to object to in such festivals, although there are some festivals that Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, does approve of. Formerly, in the kitchen of Beloved-of-the-Gods, King Piyadasi, hundreds of thousands of animals were killed every day to make curry. But now with the writing of this Dhamma edict only three creatures, two peacocks and a deer are killed, and the deer not always. And in time, not even these three creatures will be killed."

2.2.2.1. no living beings may not be harmed

2.2.2.2. no festivals should be held except for some

2.2.2.3. - goverment controling religion

2.2.3. New node

2.3. Mauryan Leaders

2.3.1. Using religious thinking for politics

2.3.1.1. Ashoka modeled himself as a cakravartin, the Buddhist term for a "universal ruler,"

2.3.2. Asoka began his rule as a brutal warlord. converted to Buddhism because he was tired of war.

2.3.2.1. In modern world annexation leads to complete destruction of your country

2.3.2.1.1. Like with Iraq and Kuwait, Iraq sent reeling by concecuitive effects, back then consquest was a viable strategy for power

2.3.3. Bhuddism and Mahavira

2.3.3.1. Fought corruption with public opinion

2.3.3.1.1. not much use, corruption too deepset in society

2.3.3.2. not killing animals

2.3.3.3. lots of people cannot control is religion

2.3.3.4. 4noble truths people suffer because people want

2.3.3.4.1. leaders should want a better country

2.3.4. ChandraGupta

2.3.4.1. Embraced jainism and made social reforms

2.3.4.1.1. Government intervention in society bad, things too deepset and take time to change, but for him changed things

2.3.5. Fell because the khyber pass was left unguarded, and enemy king swept in

2.3.5.1. Not much use modern day, so much war air based natural terrain does not mean as much

2.3.5.1.1. Only use of holding terrain is for income, not strategic positioning

2.4. Mughul Empire

2.4.1. Aurangzeb (1658–1707) assumed the throne, reversed many of Akbar's policies supporting religious tolerance Islamic religious law (sharia) became the foundation of Mughal government,

2.4.1.1. the empire was in decline, weakened by succession conflicts

2.4.1.2. an entrenched war waged by Aurangzeb in the south

2.4.1.3. growing inequality between rich and poor

2.4.1.4. loss of support from nobles and gentry

2.4.1.5. Religous centered government

2.4.2. THe first mughul leader Babur,

2.4.2.1. 15th centruy he was ambitious and detirmined to recapture Samarkand

2.4.2.1.1. Lost his kingdom Feghana

2.4.3. http://www.mughalindia.co.uk/room.html

2.4.4. Building taj mahal shah jahan

2.4.4.1. it wouldve work only in monarchy

2.4.4.2. there is advanced machines

2.4.5. New node

2.4.6. BABUR INTER RACIAL MARRAIGE

2.4.6.1. used arranged mairrage to ease the rift between races

2.4.6.1.1. pointless today because political marraigeas are looked down upon and simply not used