THCUP Discussion Notes 10th March 2010

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1. Tower Hamlets Discussion

1.1. 10 major points

1.1.1. 1. stick to timeframe

1.1.2. 2. publish information (in advance)

1.1.3. 3. transparency!

1.1.4. 4. better planning

1.1.5. 5 key areas

1.1.6. 6. developing infrastructure

1.1.7. 7. Voice and representation

1.1.8. 8. Volunteering

1.1.9. 9. Commissioning and funding

1.1.10. 10. Accomodation needs

1.2. topics

1.2.1. voice & representation

1.2.2. commissioning & funding

1.2.3. representation on the council

1.3. ideas

1.3.1. modernization fund

1.3.2. Bow Haven grant

1.3.3. TACCA

1.3.4. changeup is not an org but a consortium

1.3.5. events for providers

1.3.6. TH officer support is available

1.3.7. there's an event for providers in June

1.3.8. Talk to Hilary Hughes

1.3.9. signposting in communities

1.3.10. facilitate communication

1.3.11. low-income should be a category for support

1.3.12. low-income should be a criterion for support

1.3.13. webdesigner should liase w orgs

1.4. questions

1.4.1. What's the difference changeup / cvs?

1.4.2. Can changeup/cvs work together?

1.4.3. infrastructure & delivery: what's the difference?

1.4.4. what is the cost of the infrastructure?

1.4.5. how to avoid duplication between orsgs?

1.4.6. is changeup duplicating TH activity?

1.4.7. how much does CTST cost?

1.4.8. how can we develop dialogue?

1.4.9. what is "provider" vs "supplier"

1.4.10. what are the collaboration opportunities?

1.4.11. what is a "blueprint for procurement"

1.4.12. can staff attend trainings?

1.4.13. what IS the 3rd sector?

1.4.14. is the 3-yr funding recommissioned?

1.4.15. localism should be built into contracts

1.4.16. be creative w support

1.4.17. localism/localist weighting

1.4.18. www.competefor.com

1.4.19. supplier networking

1.5. issues

1.5.1. it's difficult to find CU information

1.5.2. is CU prioritizing high profile orgs?

1.5.3. is changeup 'trickle-down...?'

1.5.4. black organisations are underfunded

1.5.5. There's no policy of not funding singlecommunity organizations.

1.5.6. single-community vs orgs that don't discriminate

1.5.7. language re procurement & 3rd sector language incompatible

1.5.8. procurement must become accessible

1.5.9. improving accessibility

1.5.10. don't move the goalposts!

1.5.11. complaints receive no response from council

1.5.12. we need more feedback from council

1.5.13. the strategy is still unfamiliar

1.5.14. collaborative capability

1.5.15. knowing the opportunities

1.5.16. identifying the criteria

1.5.17. TH is an ALMO

1.5.18. strategy for small org collab

1.6. database ideas

1.6.1. to channel services in community

1.6.2. searchable by issue and place

1.6.3. raise the IT stakes!

1.6.4. sophisticated databases

1.6.5. 3rd sector must be involved w database

1.6.6. we need "the dream database!"

1.6.7. create a property database

1.6.8. use a premises providers network

1.6.9. need a youth organisations group

2. ChangeUp Discussion

2.1. issues

2.1.1. contract has been delayed

2.2. ideas/answers

2.2.1. CU this is an interim consortium

2.2.2. fora are 4 frontline orgs

2.2.3. we can support frontliners ad-hoc

2.2.4. a TRA itself doesn't qualify as an infrastructure org

2.2.5. we should avoid creating monopolies

2.2.6. frontliners:please join fora!

2.2.7. there's a new a health/wellbeing forum

2.2.8. CU money is ringfenced

2.2.9. we need a nuts and bolts sharing systems

2.2.10. the 3rd sector advisory board helps coordinate

2.2.11. cu has 30k to support CVS startup

2.2.12. changeup organisational mapping exercise.

2.2.13. frontline orgs can be associate members

2.2.14. we can avoid duplication with internal referrals

2.2.15. lots of contacts disappaered with COF

2.3. questions

2.3.1. how do CU processes work?

2.3.2. what is an infrastructure org?

2.3.3. how are fora convened?

2.3.4. who do we call about CU?

2.3.5. can you be in multiple frontliner fora?

2.3.6. who is changeup?

2.3.7. what is changeup's org structure?

2.3.8. how can infrastructure & frontline collaborate?

2.3.9. will changeup be sustainable?

2.3.10. whats the legacy of Changeup?

2.3.11. how do we avoid duplication w. CVS?

2.3.12. who is changeup missing?

2.3.13. will there be a mission drift with CU?

2.3.14. how cna frontline orgs get involved?

2.3.15. is there a CASH and SSBA duplication?

2.3.16. why dont we have a list of organisations?

2.4. issues

2.4.1. frontliners deserve support!

2.4.2. small/medium sized orgs are being squeezed

2.4.3. PCT isn't on on the agenda

2.4.4. small orgs can't participate

2.4.5. small orgs have to volunteer to be here

2.4.6. daytime meetings are hard for small orgs

2.4.7. we need just one forum!

2.4.8. video recording meetings is inhibiting for some

3. CVS Discussion

3.1. issues

3.1.1. ownership of CVS

3.1.2. sector database is out of date

3.1.3. duplication

3.1.4. signposting

3.2. questions

3.2.1. priorities??

3.2.2. how do we have the conversations?

3.2.3. what duty does cvs have?

3.2.4. can we share contact details?

3.2.5. can we have a aguestimate of numbers?

3.2.6. is coordination possible?

3.2.7. can you create a map of what's happening?

3.2.8. how to get the voluntary sector enabled?

3.2.9. how will CVS work with change up?

3.2.10. is CVS a coordinating body?

3.2.11. what's CVS's business plan

3.2.12. what does CVS do?

3.3. answers/ideas

3.3.1. fair access for commisioning

3.3.2. we estimate there are 2000 organisations

3.3.3. CVS is an independent organisation

3.3.4. CVS is not council run

3.3.5. CVS has 460,000 pounds to set up

3.3.6. we need to communicate independence

3.3.7. don't take over the volunteer sector

3.3.8. we need support for funding

3.3.9. funding for small organisations

3.3.10. the previous CVS was weak

3.3.11. there was too much politics

3.3.12. protect against cuts

3.3.13. disabled community interest

3.3.14. internal processes described

3.3.15. training

3.3.16. bring in the PCT

3.3.17. direct support to grass roots

3.3.18. how to get money to the the community?

3.3.19. capacity building

3.3.20. stop duplication

3.3.21. we want a needs analysis

3.3.22. community accountancy self help

3.3.23. help with bookkeeping etc

3.3.24. there's lots of talent here!

3.3.25. you own CVS!

3.3.26. we need multi media communication

3.3.27. CVS/THCUP advertising is not effective

3.3.28. we need more notice

3.3.29. enable talent sharing

3.3.30. help with procurement

3.3.31. simple skills audit

3.4. New node

4. Question Time / Unlecture

4.1. questions

4.1.1. what is the 3rd Sector Advisory Board?

4.1.2. what are the organisational relationships?

4.1.3. how much does TH 3rd sector strategy team cost?

4.1.4. is TH jacking the 3rd sector agenda?

4.1.5. are worker coops included?

4.1.6. is QA necessary for funding?

4.1.7. What is the quality mark?

4.1.8. Is QA exclusive?

4.2. ideas/issues

4.2.1. we need to bring in more orgs

4.2.2. please can we fill the vacant post at Tower Hamlets

4.2.3. new cvs will support social enterprise.

4.2.4. true partnership we need transparency!

4.2.5. housing associations are not voluntary orgs!

4.2.6. CVS should clarify membership

4.2.7. TH is awash with money!

4.2.8. People are worried about QA

4.2.9. the language of THCUP isn't accessible!

4.2.10. there's a perception problem

4.2.11. we need training for smaller orgs

4.2.12. what about social enterprise?

4.2.13. we need more friendly meeting times

4.2.14. we need to simplify & communicate this better

4.2.15. QA mark isn't 100% necessary.

4.2.16. social inclusion

4.2.17. housing associations are like gangs!

4.2.18. TH: it's not your money!

4.2.19. leases for VS are a major issue!

4.2.20. short term leases are a nightmare!

4.2.21. need a CU law clinic

4.2.22. we need to get rid of the politics

4.3. Quality assurance discussion

4.3.1. matrix accreditation

4.3.2. QA is necessary for funding

4.3.3. QA is useful for partnership working

4.3.4. QA 4 advice orgs is extra necessary

4.3.5. QA is also a barrier for some

4.3.6. QA horses for courses